Mervyn Jones
was the most senior operational West Midlands Police officer involved in
the Hillsborough Inquest / Taylor Inquiry following the deaths of 95
(prior to Tony Bland's death) Liverpool fans at the Hillsborough
disaster. The role of the West Midlands police was to collect evidence
to assist the Taylor Inquiry and the original inquests into cause of
the death.
Following the disgusting way I was interviewed by two
West Midlands Officers, my mother wrote a letter to my Godfather (an ex
Policeman) who subsequently wrote a letter to Geoffrey Dear highlighting
his concerns over the conduct of his officers. I have previously
blogged how I was threatened, intimidated and how my evidence was
changed / altered without my consent.
The letter to G.Dear was
passed on to Mervyn Jones who responded to the letter from my
Godfather. He also wrote on the letter an instruction "Initiate a
follow up to smooth troubled waters".
See the link below for the letter to Geoffrey Dear and the reply from Mervyn Jones.
http://hillsborough.independent.gov.uk/repository/docs/SYP000028620001.pdf
The
handwriting on the letter has been matched to Mervyn Jones from other
documents he wrote on were his signature was not redacted. So it is
clear that Mervyn Jones knew about concerns over how I was interviewed
by 2 of his officers, given that he replied to the letter from my
Godfather. It is also clear that he did little to ensure a thorough
investigation. No one came and spoke to me over how I was interviewed,
rather the officers were asked for an explanation and that was that.
At
Warrington, under oath, Mervyn Jones was questioned over the conduct of
some his officers, in particular over how they had interviewed Ian
Lee. Ian Lee, like me, complained of the conduct of WMP. He stated
that "the officers became intimidating and aggressive".
See the bottom of page 5
https://hillsboroughinquests.independent.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/hill280415pmjuryinandout.pdf
On Page 6 - we can see the following exchange
Q.
It could only lead, couldn't it, to somebody in Mr Lee's position
reaching the conclusion that West Midlands Police were simply doing the
bidding of South Yorkshire Police?
M Jones: If that's -- that's
not unreasonable to suppose, sir, but as far as I'm concerned, I was
unaware that actions like that were taking place, and if I had have
been, I would have done something about it.
Well as far as I
can tell, that answer was untruthful. He was aware, as he had seen and
replied to a letter that highlighted concerns of 2 of his officers.
Secondly,
in saying "I would have done something about it" - he is again
misleading the Coroner / Jury as he did not do something about it in the
case of the complaint from my Godfather. He merely requested a
response and did not ensure a proper / thorough investigation.
His
response at the inquests, under oath, was both misleading and
untruthful. This, the most senior operational officer from the WMP.
For info: Story was covered by the Echo today
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/letter-suggests-former-west-midlands-11523886
Saturday, 25 June 2016
Sunday, 29 May 2016
Verdict aftermath
Looking back, I see a
huge irony. Bear with me while I spell it out.
Let's start by saying
it like it was. On April 15th 1989. many ordinary South
Yorkshire Policemen regarded the Liverpool fans attending
Hillsborough as scum. They treated us like scum. A number of SYP
pushed fans back as they tried to escape over fences, they refused to
open exit gates, they ignored our pleas for help, they literally
turned their backs on us in our hour of need.
Half a pitch away, some
SYP followed orders and quickly formed a line to separate fighting
fans - only there were no fighting fans. As body after body came
past on stretchers, most of the police did nothing. I'll repeat
that: they did nothing. How many bodies do you need to see before
you go to help? For the majority, the answer was not even 96, they
never did go and help - they held their line. Cos they had been told
to? Cos they didn't care? You tell me - because I can never
understand how a policeman can stand and do nothing when he sees
somebody dead or injured.
Some SYP even hindered
the fans trying to pull down advertising hoardings to ferry the dead
and injured to medical assistance. The testimony is there for all
to read - how the SYP spoke to, treated and reacted to supporters
that day. At the height of the disaster, they even called for dogs
and turned away ambulances.
Later the same day,
their first question to many grieving parents was to ask how much
alcohol their kids had had. The parents of scum, were treated as
scum. That was the SYP mindset, of that I have no doubt. How else
can you explain their conduct to people who have just been told their
children are dead? How else do you explain a SYP telling me 11
months later that “95 dead was a good days work.” [95 excludes
Tony Bland who died 3 years later]
How else do you explain
a West Midlands Policeman accusing me of being a left wing agitator
because I dared to criticise the SYP? Or the WMP officer who after
taking her statement, went on to make a sexual advance to Diane, one
of our IP applicants, at a time she was traumatised and vulnerable.
The police looked at us as scum. That's how it was. It may not make
easy reading, but that is how it was. That is how we were treated.
Then the next day, with
the reality of their role in killing 95 fans dawning on them, the SYP
started to tell the world their version of the truth, namely that we
were scum. Murdering scum. Violent, drunk, ticketless yobs. Scum
who stole from the dead, scum who urinated on the police as they
tried to help. They knew it was a pack of lies, so why did they
think they could get away with it? Easy, cos in their view we were
scum - a disparate bunch of poorly-educated, working class, voiceless
and faceless people that the SYP and their friends, thought they
could label as murderers, as scum.
No more. It took a
while, a disgusting length of time, if truth be told. So long that
many mothers, fathers died without seeing their children vindicated.
Many parents died before the inquests, with their children still
labelled as contributing to the deaths, still labelled as part of the
mob, part of the cause why so many people had died at a match. My
very own mother died 6 years ago, before there was even a sniff of a
new inquest, never mind the final exoneration of her son and
thousands of others.
So to our little gang.
I salute everyone of you. I salute every person who has been
involved. I do more than salute you, I thank you. Being labelled as
murderer when you have done nothing wrong is a disgusting, horrible
and vile accusation – and I am labelled a murderer no more. Thank
you to every survivor who gave a statement, who took to the stand,
who held up a placard, who signed a petition. To every member of the
HJC, the HFSG and HFH, Anne Williams' group. Every person who
supported the fight for justice, I salute you and I thank you.
And now the irony, the
beautiful irony. I salute you all the more because so many of the
very people seen as scum by the SYP were the very people who played
crucial roles in the fight for justice. The SYP, the Coroner and Mr
Beggs...they all underestimated us, underestimated our determination,
our tenacity and our fight.
And be clear, these
'scum', are the very people who the nation should be thankful to.
These people from ordinary families, these supporters and
survivors...they stood their ground and they campaigned for years.
However much they fell out with each other, or disagreed over
tactics, or over how best to achieve what they wanted, they always
had certain crucial things in common: They had truth on their side,
they had determination on their side and they had suffered a huge
injustice that they needed to put right. The injustice of not just
seeing your loved one killed, but then shamefully, seeing them
blamed, too.
Every single person in
our country, who values police accountability, who values truth and
justice, who wants our police, our politicians and our institutions
to act in the right way - every one of them owes a huge debt of
thanks to the campaigners. For we might, we just might, have changed
things in the UK. If nothing else changes, every single police
officer in the UK now knows one simple truth: you are not, nor will
you ever be, above the law. You can lie, intimidate, threaten
witnesses, fabricate evidence, alter statements and get the press on
your side - you can even cosy up to the PM and their press officer
and you can lie under oath all you want...but you just might one day
get found out. It might not be tomorrow, but you risk getting shown
up and you risk the world finding out exactly what sort of person you
are.
Let's go back to the
pub in London, six months earlier when the MITP first told us about
Q7 and how he thought the Coroner was looking to stitch up the fans.
It struck me that the Coroner, much like the SYP 27 years earlier,
had assumed we were a disparate, poorly-educated, voiceless and
faceless bunch of non entities. He hadn't fallen for the “robbing
the dead” nonsense, but he seemed to believe that the Liverpool
fans could be treated as a sacrificial lamb, to placate the SYP. He
seemed to think that Liverpool fans, the families, the survivors and
the campaigners would accept this injustice and melt away. His view
seemed to be that the survivors were expendable and not worthy of the
truth or justice.
In the pub, with fellow
survivors talking to the MITP, 6 months before the verdicts, I had
asked: Who does the Coroner think we are? Does he think we are
idiots? Does he think any of us will accept this? Any of us?
Well, in the case of 6
survivors, he now knows who we are, boy does he know who we are now...
Verdict day
26th April 2016, like
April 15th 1989 and Sept 12th 2012 before them,
are now etched on every Survivors brain as hugely significant dates.
Sept 12th has become known as truth day, yet somehow we
are here 3 ½ years later and the truth so devastatingly and
dramatically revealed by the HIP report has for 25 months, in a
courtroom has been challenged yet again, by police witness after
police witness. Many ageing men, who once served the good people of
South Yorkshire as police officers, stood up, they took an oath and
they then have proceeded to paint the fans as drunken yobs, tied to
their testimony made more than 2 decades earlier.
On this day, the jury
would speak, they would tell the world whose version of events they
believed. Were the police over run by a drunken mob, hell bent on
gaining entry, arriving late and en mass to intentionally create a
situation where a number without tickets could bunk in. This was the
SYP lie they created and the one many SYP were sticking too. Whilst
the HSE evidence had fully discredited the suggestion of a mass of
“bunking in” fans (They had counted the numbers and proven that
the total number of fans on the Leppings lane terraces matched the
tickets sold) how could you disprove the SYP lies about widespread
drunkeness and “non compliant” fans?
Policeman after
policeman took to the stand and used what seemed to me, to be
standard phrases (The IPCC I hope are looking at exactly this) “over
50% of fans were drinking”, the exact same phrase added to my
statement. My own statement said I saw over 50% of fans drinking,
added later by someone, without my consent. The other phrase I
noticed was of “Animalistic behaviour”. I have read a few SYP
statements and this phrase seems way too common. It is hardly the
language of your ordinary copper, if people were genuinely
misbehaving I'd expect a copper to use 'yobs' or 'violent' but not
'Animalistic behaviour'.
The jury has listened
to account after account, most challenged by the family lawyers with
2 key weaknesses being probed time and again. The first, the
changing of their statements, the failure to date some statements,
the addition of critical (of fans) phrases, the removal of critical
(of police) phrases. Quite simply the way SYP statements were pulled
together was highly irregular and the content clearly designed to
tell a consistent and damaging narrative. Apparently these drunken
fans were not just outside, police even gave evidence that the fans
in the gym, those who had carried the dead and injured, that they
also stank of alcohol.
Secondly, the SYP could
never explain why, if there was a significant 'non compliant' drunken
section of fans, why was there no corroborating evidence? Why had
significant numbers not been arrested? The video pictures spoke for
themselves. As did the thousands of photos. They even photographed
the bins at Hillsborough, but found just a bin mainly full of soft
drinks cans. They blood tested the dead, yet only proved that the
majority of fans had no alcohol at all, some had had literally had a
pint or two and I one or two had had around 5 pints or so. At an FA
Cup semifinal.
But when the lies are
repeated by so many, so many ex and current police officers, of
different ranks, there is the risk they are believed. Some SYP to
their credit broke rank. A few stated that any isolated drunkeness
they saw was no different to any big match. Others, shamefully,
maintained this was the worst match they had ever policed. If you
want a taste of how vile some of the SYP witnesses were watch this
report from Skynews. This is what was broadcast to the nation by
the same NewInternational that brought us the S*n lies 27 years ago.
http://news.sky.com/story/1340160/hillsborough-fans-spat-at-me-says-policeman
Myself, Ade, Debs and
Jim have all travelled upto Liverpool and wake up and get a meal down
our necks, aware we could be in court most of the day. We had a
couple of pints last night and have been going over the scenarios
again and again, not just last night but for weeks now. We think
there are 5 possible verdicts on Q7 and our group have prepared press
releases to cover all possible outcomes. The hope is that we win,
but we are not sitting back waiting for a victory.
The statements are
different dependent on the outcome. In the best case, we will
happily put the boot into the SYP. The jury will have found, as we
have been saying for 27 years, that they have lied through their
teeth about their own culpability and have lied about the behaviour
of the fans. The SYP have a record of letting down ordinary people
(Rotherham) and they have a record of fabricating evidence
(Orgreave). Their culture is such they have operate as if they are
above the law, with no ability to stop, reflect and learn from their
mistakes. They are, simply, rotten to the core and beyond reform.
They need to be disbanded / merged with another force so the people
of South Yorkshire can be served by a police force they deserve.
In the worst case
Scenario, the jury find 'unlawful killing' and they find the fans
caused or contributed to the deaths. This will be outright war and
in this scenario we need to hit the media quickly with our refusal to
accept a finding that we believe is wrong and unfair. Our press
release highlights a number of serious shortcomings of the inquests,
namely that the fans were not represented and that a number of SYP
who are under criminal investigation for perverting the course of
justice, were allowed to present evidence as “untainted” without
the jury being made aware of this.
Our London lawyer is on
the ball and our legal appeal / judicial review is pretty much ready,
with our main card agreed to be “How can you find against a set of
people who were denied legal representation?” Natural justice
screams this is wrong and we are determined to carry on the fight if
needs be. Any judicial review we mount would be to find Q7 an unsafe
finding, rather than to seek to have the whole inquests rerun. We
would simply seek to have Q7 removed from the inquests findings.
But even if successful,
we know the damage would be done. Forever we would be reminded that
a jury had found us as contributing to the deaths of our own. That
we were unrepresented would be ignored by those who believe that
Liverpool fans bare some of the responsibility for the deaths.
We jump in the car for
the 45 minute drive to Warrington. We have been allocated seats in
the overflow building, rather than the main court, where family
members have been allocated just 2 tickets each. The lack of space
is a huge oversight in our opinion and many with a vested interest
have to follow the proceedings from a different room, with a video
and audio link to the courtroom.
The traffic is mental
as word comes of an over turned milk lorry on the M62 causing
tailbacks. The good news is everyone coming from Liverpool is in the
same boat and I am confident they can't start without the bulk of
the families in attendance. Jim decides to trust his prat-nav, boy
does she have an irritating voice. “At the next junction”...just
shut up you stupid cow, we know the fucking way, been here a dozen
times. I get smug and point out that on my motorbike I'd have been
booting it down the middle of the motionless traffic. Someone points
out that I couldn't get four of us on my motorbike but that doesn't
stop me and my little “Bikes are the only way to travel” sermon.
The tension in the car
is palpable, the moment people have waited for is minutes away and we
have done all we can. We are, to quote a famous footie phrase, all
played out. The energy this has taken has been palpable. Physical
and emotional. Travelling up from Suffolk to Liverpool, during the
months of January to April, in the coldest of weather is no fun. One
time I arrived at 11.15, got off by bike after 4 ½ hours in freezing
temperatures, looking like I had been in snow drift. I was literally
shaking with the cold and it took me about 2 hours to regain movement
in all my fingers.
We park up at
Warrington and Jim unpacks his huge flag. I tell him we are waving
it, don't give a fuck for court etiquette. All through our
'operation vigilance', and we have spent hours in court, not once
have I stood up and bowed to the Coroner on his entrance or
departure. Who the fuck does he think he is? He expects me to bow
to him, to show him deference or respect? Well get this Goldring, I
think you're a twat, simple as. Despite protestations from legal
teams, you have allowed the SYP to repeat their disgusting lies, lies
about me, about my friends, lies about 96 fans who can't defend
themselves. Goldring has allowed it and he has denied me or any
other fan the right to legal representation. I think 'twat' is too
polite but I am aware children might read this so will keep it civil.
On the walk down Ade
and Debs walk a few feet behind us, Ade is in his own world no doubt
going over the enormity of what's facing us all. Ade is definitely
more reserved, calm and assured than me. He is a top man who has
done so much in the past few months, his knowing so many connected
people at the inquests, who will have to remain nameless, who have
offered him (and us) advice on how the inquests were going and what
(if anything) we could do at each stage.
But I am not reserved,
nor indeed am I calm. I am shitting myself and incredibly nervous.
But either way, I am walking into these inquests with my head held
high and Jim's flag “We climbed the Hill in our own way” speaks
volumes for the fight Liverpudlians have had to make. Years of
sneering, of accusations of being “whinging scousers” yet they
have stood their ground, refused to be bowed. They knew they had the
truth on their side, and today, just maybe, the world would hear the
truth from a jury.
We get to court and it
takes a while to sort out tickets. Ade has been a star and wangled
us into 401 the overflow building. There are mainly family members
here and we sit all on one row. I scout around and can't see any
other obvious groups of survivors. I know a handful are in the main
court room too, but this is predominantly an occasion for those
bereaved 27 years ago. They are here to learn officially the cause of
death for their loved ones. We officially should not be here at all.
But we are clearly more than random observers. I suspect that Ade's
press pass and the fact that the Solcitior to the Coroner knows Ade
is writing a piece for the Observer may have swayed him from his
initial refusal to allow us tickets.
I would have been quite
happy to stand outside the main court room, knowing that if Q7 went
badly, we were next to the media and could get straight in with our
“What was wrong with the inquests” line, but more important was
sitting with people I knew, people I had faith would do what was
necessary to protect me from doing something stupid. Another good
reason not to be in the main court room to be honest as am not sure
the Coroner would have got out unscathed had we been found to have
contributed to deaths we never caused.
We sit down in a row,
Ade and Debs at one end, Richie and his wife Lou, Tim, Jim, Chris
and I am next to Damian and a Welsh lad Dean. Both are survivors and
both are incredibly strong people. The sort of people it is a
privilege to know, who have stood up and shouted as loudly as they
could about the injustice. Some survivors are quiet, some are
outspoken. Some are broken and some are no longer here, unable to
cope with the demons, the nightmares and the survivor guilt. Heap on
that a nation that labels you a murderer and many chose to end their
lives early. Some simply can't speak about their experiences, much
as I was for 6 years before receiving counselling. Even then it took
me another 17 years to fully write down my experiences.
But I am next to good
people and we have a shared experience and a bond I hope I never
repeat. Nearly dying isn't a nice bond to have, being labelled a
murderer isn't a nice label to share. I truly wish I had never met
any of these people before. Wish I had never answered the bloody
door 27 years ago when a scouse mate came round to offer me a ticket
for a football match involving 2 teams I didn't support.
I truly wish I hadn't
been so stupid as to walk out of my A'level Geography exam an hour
early so I could catch the England v Holland match in the 88' Euros.
I missed going to Leeds University by 1 grade and ended up with my
fallback, Sheffield City Polytechnic, all because I wanted to watch
the England v Holland match. Marco Van Basten took the p*ss out of
Tony Adams and we got dicked anyway. Hardly worth leaving an exam
early for. Hardly worth missing a place at University for. Fucking
idiot.
We are sat down and
some official comes and tells us that we are part of the court, and
as such should show no emotion. Yeah, good luck with that love. 27
years being labelled a murderer and you think we are just going to
shrug our shoulders if the result goes our way?
The first question that
matters goes our way. Dean leans over, squeezes my leg and I give
him a nod. We are all hopeful but know that juries can be
unpredictable. I had a few weeks earlier chatted with a leading
lawyer from the HJC who said he felt the evidence was strong, but
that sometimes juries make “perverse” findings. People don't
like to convict the police and although this is not a criminal court,
we all know what 'Unlawful Killing' means. It means that the SYP and
Duckenfield were responsible for the killings, end of. No accident,
no “imperfect storm”, the SYP were responsible for unlawfully
killing 96 football fans who simply went to watch a game of football.
The various failings of
the SYP are detailed by the jury. The lack of planning coming out
clearly. But Q6 and 7 are the only two that are really in doubt.
The Coroner asks the question about unlawful killing and the the
answer is positive. I punch the air, and manage not to shout. I
know this is only half way there and we still face the nightmare
scenario. Quickly the Coroner moves on and he answers No to Q7 and
critically No to the supplementary question, whether the fans “May
have contributed” to the deaths.
We shout out - “Yes,
Yes” and Dean is stood up too. Poor bloke has his arm in a sling
but that's not going to stop me giving him first, then Damian an
almighty hug. I lean over and Richie and Tim soon get the same.
People are hugging all around and my handed is welded tight into a
fist as I continuously punch the air. Be clear, we have won, we have
won. All those lying bastards, the hundreds of lying police have
been shown up for what they are. A disgrace. An utter disgrace to
their uniform, to the police, to the country. Their lies have been
shown up, now everyone knows the truth.
I refocus on the
question and they are on Q11. What happened to 8,9 and 10? Who
cares? The South Yorkshire Police are getting an almighty kicking, a
kicking from a jury who sat and listening to their bullshit for 2
years, just like Taylor had done 27 years ago. He rejected it and so
have they. Do I feel an ounce of sympathy for them? Do I fuck. Of
course their were a few good coppers there, coppers let down by their
leadership. But what did they do the next day? Or after the
disgusting lies in the press being fed by their own Federation rep?
They said nothing, they nodded away and allowed their statements to
be changed, on an industrial scale.
So no, I don't feel an
ounce of sympathy towards the SYP. Not one. I won't lie, not one
ounce. They collectively concocted the very lie that has labelled me
a murderer for 27 years. There have been suicides amongst Survivors
and I was on the phone to the Samaritans myself 21 years ago before I
got counselling. Their lies were no accident. They repeated them
again, at these very inquests and they were reported again, all these
years later almost as facts. I fucking hope they choke on their
disgusting lies, hope they can't look at their wives or their kids
without thinking – “Even you now know what we did.” I hope
they can't sleep at night and I hope their disgusting actions haunt
them.
We leave the court room
and Richie gets his “We told you they lied” flag out. Many
people want photos of it and we are happy to be free. Free? Yes
free, free from the distasteful lie that we killed our own,
officially exonerated and free to tell anyone who cares the Truth.
Later we head over to the main court and the phone is ringing. The
next couple of days are busy as we start to tell our stories. How it
feels to be lied about, to be labelled a murderer and to be
exonerated so many years later. Tim always says there are no
winners in this and he is right. But if feels like a big victory
and we head off to celebrate.
I bump into possibly
the nicest person I know. Doreen Jones. I have seen her 2 years
earlier on the banned Hillsborough documentary (Not for public
viewing until after the inquests) and had chatted to her many times
at the court. Her son, like me, was in Sheffield as a student. Like
me, he had been through Gate C unable to make entry due to the
disorganisation of the turnstile areas. Like me he had followed the
signage and headed for the tunnel onto the central pens. Like me he
had simply gone to a football match. Unlike me, he left Hillsborough
in a body bag.
Doreen jokes she and
her daughter Steph (another Survivor) have slipped their husbands and
I insist on buying them a drink. Doreen is smiling, something I
have never seen before. This lady who had her son stolen from her,
who was cruelly refused the right to hug her dead son, inhumanely
told “He is the property of the coroner”, this lady, for that is
what she is, she is smiling. Not celebrating but smiling, still
dignified in a way I could never be and in a way that brings shame
onto everyone in the establishment who even suspected there was a
cover up and yet did nothing to expose it.
She brings shame to a
coroner who over saw a process where policeman after policeman
labelled her son was yet again as a drunken yob who fought his way
into a match. Why? Because irrespective of what the Coroner might
say, you can't simply differentiate between fans when you can't
identify who was misbehaving. They had hours of footage but could
identify not one misbehaving fan, so had to label “the fans” as a
generic mob. Each of the 96, who drank in pubs with us, who came
entered the stadium with us, who stood next to us, each of them was
effectively labelled a murderer by the lying SYP officers, just as we
were.
The SYP brought only
their discredited lies to court, so why they were allowed to
regurgitate them for 2 years only the coroner knows. Why Doreen
Jones was made to sit and listen to the same lies again, only the
Coroner knows. Why we were put back on trial, only the Coroner
knows. But tonight, Doreen is softly smiling. An old lady finally,
finally knowing that the truth about her son's death, is now
officially recorded and the world knows her son, her daughter too,
played no part in the killing of anyone. Exonerated, in full.
Richard and Steph Jones, just like me, Ade, Richie, Tim, Damian,
Dean, Val, Diane and thousands of others, each and everyone of us
exonerated.
I am proud to say
Doreen is one of many family members who offered us her support and
encouragement when we pulled together our letters and applications.
Some people may snipe, who knows what they say, who cares to be
frank. When someone like Doreen is on your side, that is good enough
for me.
She is such a wonderful
lady and I give her a hug, knowing I'll probably never have the
honour of chatting with her again.
We sit down for our
first pint and Radio 5 phone me up, and ask if I can do a live
interview. Of course, when are we on? In 3 hours they tell me.
Well, am not being funny, but you may want someone else, cos in 3
hours I am going to be well pissed. And I was.
The Inquests 4: Decision time
So we have two choices,
go to high court for a JR on our being refused IP status. Or keep
our powder dry. As ever, we talk through the options. We have
another survivor and a campaigner on a conference call and a decision
is made. If we go for the JR and lose, we are all played out, we
have lost and we can no longer influence the Coroner.
Or hold off, inform the
Coroner that we have instructed our lawyers we will JR the minute we
feel our interests are not being fully represented in court during
the summing up. (One of his arguments was that the family lawyers
were already representing us, as they had survivors who lost loved
ones within their ranks.)
We also now had a huge
ace up our sleeve – If you shit on us and we lose, we will be in
court within days asking for Q7 to be found unsafe, as the people you
found against were unrepresented. Not because we didn't ask, but
because the Coroner refused to allow us to defend ourselves.
That is a pretty strong
card and we are happy that whilst we haven't got IP status confirmed,
we have managed to ensure the Coroner knows, not suspects, he knows
that the fans will be making merry hell if things go against us. We
now have the legal argument, the lawyer, the families' support, the
funding (from families) and we also have the press. Two of our gang
are journalists. One of our supporters used to work at the Sunday
Times and is well connected. We have contacts at the BBC, ITV and
C4 News. I have already done interviews with the BBC and ITV about
the WMP. If things go against us, getting access to the media will
not be difficult.
So the final stage
comes into play, We called it Operation Vigilance. Get to the
inquests and be visible. The Coroner's team know who we are, and I
take every chance to make sure they know I am there. During the
legal arguments I make a point of sending lots of emails, lots of
texts, to be outside for phone calls. I even take my own dongle so I
can email without using the court wifi.
In the breaks I chat to
family members, initially as we need to build relations in case
things go against us. Soon we chat for no other reason than that
they are really nice people. Humble and reassuring, they reassure us
we did nothing wrong and that they don't believe the SYP testimony.
On a couple of occasions I get upset by the evidence, once literally
walking out in tears after hearing yet another lying SYP calling us
“animals” and this is presented by the Coroner in his summing up.
The family members are supportive and I get a couple of hugs, much
appreciated and much needed.
At one point a guy from
the court team even comes and sits behind me. I give him a proper
stare and move my seat to the back row. We are here, we are
watching and we have a fcking great big pile of dung we are going to
drop on your head Mr Coroner if you shit on us and if your jury find
against us. You will be vilified in the press as the man who refused
to allow survivors the right to defend themselves. Unprecedented,
unfair and highly questionable legal decisions. That's some legacy
you are being left with.
Well did we make a
difference? Who knows and we never will know. What I do know is
that I was told that 95% of the families' lawyers submissions towards
the summing up were successful. Our little intervention came at just
the right time, just as the Coroner was considering all the
submissions, we helped to turn the screw. The submissions were
accepted, the summing up was changed (we felt it largely fair having
heard it) and jury did the rest. We know the Coroner took notice, as
he name checked Richie in his summing up about 5 times. That was no
doubt his attempt to placate our anger, that or he was trying to
undermine our appeal that he knew was coming if Q7 went wrong for us.
The beautiful thing for
me, is that it was survivors. We got 3 more survivors to apply,
including Di and Val, a horrible decision for them as they, like us,
risked getting the IP status and holding things up. Luckily they
were are brave as we were. Like many that had been through
unspeakable trauma on the day and many times since. Like many they
were worried about Q7 and distraught at the idea they and we could
take any of the blame. But they were determined, determined to do
anything, anything that might help the fight for justice, no matter
how small.
So we had six of us
rejected and ironically we were all formally cleared as part of the
rejection. Six of us exonerated but as Val said, that means nothing
without the jury clearing everyone.
The Inquests 3: Yer name's not down, yer not coming in.
Our requests have
caused a bit of a stir and some family members are telling us “We
have heard you are representing the fans.” What? Hardly, we are 4
guys who are representing ourselves. It's not for us to represent
the fans. I am not even a Liverpool fan! The SoS or LFC or FSA,
now they could represent the fans but like us, have chosen to keep
away from the families' inquests. Unlike us they probably don't know
about Q7 and about the summing up that is about to shaft us.
One of our options, if
we get IP status granted is to speak to another group so they can
then represent the fans. An informal approach is made to the SoS to
make them aware of our plans and they also seem supportive of what we
are trying to achieve. Nothing formal is agreed, but we are
confident they would help mobilise 100s maybe 1000s of survivors if
necessary.
Back in Warrington and
we are getting informal support from family members, who support our
IP application even though it may mean a 4 week delay. They tell us
' “We've been waiting 27 years, another month isn't ideal, but you
should do what's right for you”. We are getting big grins and
thumbs up from the legal teams and word is coming through that they
want us to apply. Are we being played? For sure, but we are
willing participants and after much soul-searching we apply. One of
the original applicants drops out, but we don't fall out. We all
know it is a personal decision and we are all wanting the same thing.
Our application goes in
and we await the solicitor inviting us into the proceedings. We get
ahead of ourselves and I start working out which SYP I would request
are re-examined. Which of the lying bastards, and there are many,
should we pull over the coals one more time. I joke to the others
of the irony of our “Turning up last minute and demanding to get
in” and we can all laugh at this despite the stress / tension.
We soon get our
response, which is basically fck off again. The response seems to
be all over the place and full of contradictions, as if it were
pulled together hurriedly and late into the night. The most bizarre
of the arguments against us being legally represented at proceedings
in which we are being accused of contributing to the deaths of 96
people, is that the survivors of 7/7/ bombings were refused IP status
at the inquests of those who died.
Seriously? These guys
have no idea of what natural justice is do they? Or that anyone
reading that will laugh. The survivors of 7/7 were not being accused
of anything, we are. How can they use that as some sort of
precedent?
We are passed the name
of a lawyer in London who will assist us, for free, presumably
knowing he would get to represent us if we get our IP status granted.
He prepares us a response, a really aggressive letter to the Coroner
and states again we want IP status, this time in legal talk. Again
we are knocked back and left deflated.
Another bizarre twist
is that the response now includes the fact that we are exonerated.
Part of the reasoning not to give us IP is that the coroner, nor
indeed any of the Interested Parties who have been made aware of our
application, none of them raises any misconduct on our part. We are
formally cleared of any wrong doing. Of course this means little, to
exonerate us, yet blame the fans, as this will still mean a stain on
our name. The argument is made often and we are steadfast on this,
that to blame one fan, you blame us all.
But there is a silver
cloud here. The Coroner has stated we are blameless, so exactly who
is to blame? Who are these fans who caused the problems. If you
can't identify them, then it seems you are on weak ground regarding
Q7. Your question is against a catch all “the fans” yet everyone
who has come forward is blameless. Jim loves his strategy stuff and
highlights an anomaly in the Coroner's position. “There are now 3
categories of supporter. A, those who died, who are are blameless.
B, those who by chance applied for IP status, all now officially
blameless too, and C – the rest, who are still subject to Q7,
although no one can name them, or show any misbehavior on their
part.”
The Coroner's arguments
seems weak and we speak again to our London lawyer who says we can
judicially review the decision. This means the proceedings are held
at a court in Manchester and that the inquests stop for 24 hours
only. 3 judges would rule on whether the refusal of our IP request
is legal in law. Or whether the Coroner was right to exclude us from
the proceedings. Again, after much soul-searching we instruct our
lawyer to go for a JR.
This is big, as if
successful, this would destroy the Coroner's reputation. Given that
he is in the middle of summing up, this could work against us,
Making him look like a useless twat, whilst very satisfying, does not
necessarily play into our hands. The papers are served and we
attend the pre-court meeting on a Thursday in London. We meet with
the barrister who will argue our case and we are due in court 10am
the following morning.
The barrister takes us
through all the legal arguments and we have one weakness to our case,
namely that the proceedings have been going on for 2 years so why did
we not apply 2 years ago? Our position is that we did not know 2
years ago that Q7 would be on the table. But whilst it is
understandable, would it stand up to 3 high court judges? 4 hours of
discussions and we ask the key question to the barrister – Are we
going to win? As ever we get a load of legal talk but the message
is simple – unlikely. High court judges don't like to overrule
other high court judges, so they will find a way to reject your
claim, probably on the fact you are late.
The inquests 2: A shot across the bows
We go through our
options. We could picket the inquests, we could go now to the press,
my idea is to shut down the M6/M62 interchange every day for a week.
With banners, get arrested, back the next day. Maybe the M25 too.
Cause merry fucking hell. Direct action is all these bastards
understand. Try the nice approach and you get shafted, time to take
the gloves off.
Whatever we do is for
one purpose only, to let the Coroner know “We are here” and “We
are going nowhere”. Let him think about his summing up and about
the appropriateness of including Question 7 at all. He is due to
break in early January and to start his summing up we estimate in
February. We guess he will already be preparing his summing up,
certainly in his mind.
The summing up is
important too, as a Coroner who is (as we suspect) determined to
shaft the fans, can almost direct a jury to a certain finding. We
agree on our strategy. Calmer and saner voices than mine prevail and
we agree to write a polite letter. (Apparently “Oi Goldring you
cunt, shaft us and we promise we will make you wish you were never
born” doesn't cut it.) I go along with the consensus that it needs
to be polite or we risk antagonising him and making things worse.
Our letter would set
out our concerns and would ask the Coroner to consider these when he
is summing up. It is really a “shot across the bows” - all our
arguments will have already been made – but coming from some
survivors, he will know we are around and not in the mood to take a
share of the blame.
We
co-opt some help. Chris and Jim are experienced in the campaign, Jim
was with us in the pub too. Chris is good mates with Tim and knows
senior people in the HJC very well. They are rock solid
and are fully committed to helping with our letter. Four has become
six. Ade often comes back with legal input, only later do I find out
it is his wonderful girlfriend, a lawyer! Six has become seven.
We identify a number of
legal arguments/concerns we wish to put to the coroner, namely
The arbitrary split of
the 96 (exonerated) and the fans (not exonerated)
The inclusion of Q7
when no new evidence has been presented
The “May have”
supplementary question that sets such a low bar and is so ambiguous,
as to be meaningless in our opinion.
The fact that fans were
not represented at the inquests and could not defend our reputations.
In a nutshell, we
aren't happy, we are here and we are going nowhere, as per our
strategy. We toy with whether we should ask for Interested Party
status but know the families would not want this. It would hold
things up and they have already been waiting for years. We would
suddenly become the least popular people on Merseyside. The guys who
held up the inquests for a month whilst they got a legal team
together.
So we agree to state on
our letter, that due to our desire not to hold up proceedings, we
merely ask that our concerns are passed onto the Coroner for his
consideration when he is summing up. We know the families have been
to hell and back many times and these are the inquests for their
loved ones. Is it our place to interupt them at all? We share many
worried communications, emails, texts, phones calls and meets in the
pub debating our best move. The families are key here, but we have
our own reputations to defend. This is a proper tight rope and how
to proceed in our interests without causing them anguish from delays
is difficult.
We decide to run our
letters past the families' legal teams and past the key people /
leaders in the two family groups. We are confident the HJC guys will
be onside, 2 of our gang know people at HJC personally. But no one
has knows anyone at the HFSG. I know a HFSG family member, but only
loosely through a Facebook campaign page.
We travel en mass to
Warrington, paying our own train fares, hotel expenses. It is
important we build some relationships here, with key players. If
things go tits up at the inquests, we could be hung out to dry. The
general public has no more appetite for the campaign for justice and
many family members do not have the energy. To be blunt, many are
dying off. Stalwarts of the HJC like Maureen Church and John Glover
are no longer able to fight for the reputation of their children. We
do not have the funds.
One of the most
shameful aspects of the cover up, is how many people, good honest
people, have not lived to see their children vindicated. Not lived
long enough to pick up their death certificates, denied that basic
right by the deceit and lies of so many people. The list is long and
if I try and complete it I would only upset some by missing out
important people. But that injustice is one that can never be
righted, can never be corrected. Shameful doesn't seem adequate, but
that is the only word I know that gets close.
This really is the last
chance saloon it seems, so we need to do all we can to make sure the
Coroner's summing up is a fair one. The morning we arrive is tense
as the Coroner is to start his summing up. We have heard rumours
that the family lawyers are unhappy, but we have not seen sight of
the draft summing up sent to the lawyers prior to the Coroner
delivering them.
Our worst fears are
confirmed when as we sit outside in the common area, family members
come out of the HJC room in tears. One who knows Tim has tears down
her face. “Good luck lads, you're going to need it, they are
sh*tting on you big time.”
Slowly word comes out,
that the Coroner's summing up is pretty much a public execution of
the fans. He has even included 7 pages from 'pissgate woman' as she
is known, a local resident who complained vociferously about
Liverpool fans urinating in her garden. Whose evidence was so
inconsequential that she admitted she knew nothing of the events at
Leppings Lane. Yet her evidence was to be given large billing by the
Coroner.
Then there was the
evidence of SYP, to be presented without reference to the cross
examination and to the photos and audio visual that helped the family
lawyers take it apart during the inquests. To present for example
Lomas' evidence as if it were accepted is do such a disservice to
justice as to convince everyone, the lawyers, the family members,
that we are being set up. The families are given their unlawful
killing and the SYP get to pin some of the blame on the fans. That
way everyone is happy.
Not quite Mr Coroner,
not everyone, cos we are not happy, and we soon learn neither are
family members. They, and I mean every one of them we speak with at
the inquests, agree with our views. They see a slight on the fans,
as a slight on their loved ones who died. We were next to them when
they died. 30 of them came through Gate C with me. Whilst the SYP
and commanders' lawyers can argue, we are not of course accusing the
96, that is exactly what they are doing.
And so it is, that we
are met warmly on our visit. A leading member of the HJC approaches
us. He has seen a copy of our proposed letter to the Coroner and
indicates his strong support. “My brother” he says “was a fan,
until he died. Blame the fans, you are blaming him.” Similar
sentiments are heard from many family member attending the inquests.
Someone points out that Margaret Aspinall's husband, Trevor and Jenni
Hicks were all at the match and are no more likely to accept the
authorities blaming the fans than we will.
Emboldened we agree to
put the letter to the Coroner. We have been clear, we do not want to
hold up proceedings, we merely wish the Coroner to consider our
points, to ensure a fair summing up, not one that over-emphasises
evidence against the fans and barely mentions evidence that
exonerates us.
We get the response
from the Coroner's solicitor, which I will paraphrase in non legal
terms. “Who exactly are you? You have no legal standing so I
won't pass on your letter. Now fuck off.”
Seriously? We are in
the frame for contributing to / causing the deaths for 96 fellow fans
and we cant even write a letter? We can't even have one little voice
amongst the 112 legal teams paid for by the state? Our polite
request, to consider some issues is met with a “Fuck off”, nicely
dressed up in legal speak with the threat that we would be in
contempt of court if we publicise our knock back.
We are enraged and we
are emboldened. Every family member we have spoken to has done more
than say they are “ok” with our intervention. They have
encouraged us, told us they agree with all our arguments and tried to
reassure us that we will not be alone if things go badly on Q7. The
anguish on our faces must be clear as time and again people approach
us to reassure us and to thank us for our trying to help. We all
want the same thing and it is becoming clear that we have the support
of the families, certainly every family member we have spoken with at
Warrington.
So we decide, knowing
the families we have spoken to are supportive, that we will ask for
legal status, we will ask for Interested Party status. If that is
the only way our views can be heard / considered then fair enough.
We know what this means, it means we will possibly hold up the
inquests. If awarded we will get a legal team who will have access
to the summing up and will be able to put its submissions like all
the other Interested Parties. Could we also put up witnesses as
other IP s have? Could we call back witnesses and have our team
re-examine them? Witnesses like PC Scott who the family legal teams
went easy on as he was in a wheelchair. We are less forgiving, given
the nature of his evidence which is toxic and damaging to our
reputations.
And so it is that four
of us, myself, Ade, Richie and Tim put our names to a letter formally
requesting Interested Party status be granted. We are, if
successful, about to risk becoming the most unpopular people on
Merseyside outside the SYP. We may have the whispered support of the
families' legal teams and the family members we know, but that can't
be publicised. We will just be 4 trouble makers, 4
Jonny-come-latelys who are interfering in a legal process that is
nothing to do with us.
Except it is to do with
us, as we are being accused and we are demanding our right to defend
our names and reputations. It may mean public and/or private
criticism, but we believe we have every right to defend our
reputations.
The Inquests 1: Bolt from the blue
Everybody
knows the Hillsborough verdict. After 27 years, the families finally
got justice. An inquest which lasted two years, a record in English
law, resulted in the jury saying that the 96 people who were crushed
to death at the Hillsborough stadium in 1989 were unlawfully killed.
To call this an epic turnaround in the legal system is an
understatement.
The
verdict of Unlawful Killing overturned a verdict of Accidental Death
which a previous inquest had passed in 1991 - and it is almost
impossible to describe the pain which that first verdict caused to
the families and friends of those who died and to people like myself
who narrowly escaped death at Hillsborough. We knew it was wrong.
We knew Hillsborough was no accident and that its many causes, but
notably police incompetence and negligence, had been repeatedly
covered up ever since.
People
close to the inquest knew that literally thousands of people - family
members, survivors, campaigners, lawyers - did their bit to bring
about the new and just verdict. There were many high profile
campaigners you won't need me to name, but there was equal commitment
from innumerable survivors who relived difficult memories to give
fresh statements and many took to the witness stand at Warrington and
before that at the first inquest and at the Taylor inquiry.
But
what nobody, even those involved throughout the inquest knows, is
that a small group of survivors and campaigners campaigned behind the
scenes on an aspect of the verdict which, had it gone against the
survivors, would undoubtedly have cost lives.
We'll
never know exactly how much influence we had in heading off that
danger, and I want to be clear upfront that we don't claim any more
than that we did our best, as thousands of others have, to try and
help bring justice for not just the 96, but for the thousands of
fellow survivors appallingly labelled by the SYP as having
contributed to the deaths of their fellow fans.
Ours
was just one piece in a huge jigsaw, but a significant piece
nonetheless, and I do want to record our little gang and our efforts
we made and how the system was stacked against us at every step of
the way. How we were denied legal representation at the inquests and
how we sought to bring pressure on the Coroner at the very time he
was reviewing his critically important summing up of the evidence.
It is indicative, I believe, of how the British legal system is
stacked so heavily in favour of those with vested interests and
against the ordinary member of the British public. But before you
(as others have done) label me an agitator or someone with a grudge,
read for yourself our experiences and make up your own mind.
We
need to go back three years to the quashing of the verdicts. The
Lord Chief Justice in so doing completely exonerated the fans and
asked that the inquests be fact-finding rather than adversarial. His
wish was that organisations and individuals would accept this, would
defend their corner and that the Coroner's legal team could lead the
jury through the evidence to enable the inquests to find the correct
cause of death.
The
preamble to the inquests takes some time, but we are confident they
will find the truth. This time the discredited SYP are now largely
ex-police officers. The Coroner won't apply the bizarre and hugely
contested 3.15 cut off. The families' legal teams will be state
funded, and it won't be the West Midlands Police preparing the
testimony etc. for the Coroner.
At
this point, I am actually living/working in Lagos Nigeria, so am a
bit out of touch, but I follow the Liverpool Echo updates and am
delighted to read that the HFSG lawyers will include Michael
Mansfield. He needs no introduction and is, imho, one of the finest
lawyers in our country.
The
formal list of Interested Parties is many, with legal teams for the
SYP, for the Police Fed, for the match commanders (Duckenfield,
Marshall and Greenwood) and for Duckenfield's bosses (Jackson,
Anderson and Hayes). They announce fairly early on they will be
introducing alcohol and other aspects of fan behaviour into the
proceedings, and we wonder what they have up their sleeve? If it is
the same old SYP lies, well Taylor discredited at them, as did the
HIP authors and the Lord Chief Justice. As did the Prime Minister
come to think of it.
Either
way, I am overseas so trust in the legal teams for the families and
hope they can do the necessary to defend our corner. After all, the
96 dead were fans, they travelled with survivors, they drank in the
pubs with them, they stood outside the turnstiles, they entered the
stadium and stood on the same terrace with survivors. The only
difference is that in the lottery of Pens 3 and 4, 96 fans were
crushed to death.
Over
time, and the testimony is all available to read, I grew more and
more confident. Initially I was exasperated at the seemingly
constant references to Heysel, to hooliganism and to alcohol by John
Beggs (Duckenfield's main man) who seemed to throw in references to
hooliganism at every opportunity. Over time, it is clear that even
the Coroner was getting fed up of this and rumours circulate of a big
falling out between Beggs and the Coroner. Indeed you only have to
read the cross examination of Kenny Dalglish, where three times
proceedings are halted for “legal arguments” when Beggs is cross
examining Dalglish. It is clear reading between the lines that Beggs
is doing all he can to mention hooliganism and the Coroner is getting
fed up with him.
As
an aside, if you want to know exactly what Beggs thinks is reasonable
in a court, then read the Guardian report of his cross examining the
parent whose daughter died at Deepcut. You can make your own
conclusions as to the sort of person he is.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/feb/08/deepcut-death-evidence-soldier-cheryl-james-did-not-kill-herself
The
most momentous testimony over the course of the inquests is of course
from David Duckenfield. He gives evidence over I think 7 days and is
finally broken by the legal teams' persistence. He admits his errors
and crucially that those errors caused the deaths. He also admits
himself that his conduct fell below that expected of him. Game over
we thought, or it should have been.
In
the autumn (2015) I meet with a journalist who wishes to do an
interview for transmission post verdict. He has seen many of the
closed sessions (that you can tell people about, but may not publish
or put on social media in case the jury hear of them) and informs me
that the only cause of death under consideration is “Unlawful
Killing” and that this is the only option the jury will be asked
about. Now this is game over surely? If the evidence pointed even
maybe to accidental death, surely this would be a question for the
jury to consider? I leave the interview very happy, increasingly
confident we are looking good.
About
this time I start to meet socially with some fellow survivors /
campaigners – to support ourselves as only fellow survivors can.
We all have a common bond – yet we all have unique experiences too.
We were all young men, unprepared with what we were going into. We
all, at various times struggled with our demons and a couple of us
had spent time in the cells following confrontations with the police.
Yet
we were all unique too. Ade had struggled in the pen, been really
poorly treated by the WMP and had struggled to cope with things. Tim
had gone with 10 mates, only 7 coming home. I still don't understand
how strong Tim is, so sure that it would have broken me losing a
mate, let alone three. Richie had escaped and had carried bodies
like Ade. Tim and Ade had been in the gym, something I was
mercifully spared. Richie had also given evidence at both inquests.
And I had my WMP experiences which seem so utterly disgusting reading
them back.
So
it's good to talk, to share, self-counselling in effect, at a time
when Hillsborough was literally in the news (or the Echo at least)
every day if you wanted to know about it. As people effectively
labelled murderers by the SYP, we were very interested in it, fair to
say.
So
it is that we came together a fateful day in December, in a pub in
London where we meet with the express intention of discussing the
making of a documentary. Our stories are so strong, so powerful, so
shocking and yet so few people understand. We had approached a few
people in the media and had had some interest.
But
at this point, everything changed. We arranged to meet up for a beer
with a man who has spent some considerable time attending the
inquest. He knows the families and lawyers well, is very well
informed as to how proceedings are going and has some power behind
the scenes. Starting that night and continuing to the present day, we
referred to him as the Man In The Pub, (the MITP), as he wishes to
remain anonymous and we continue to respect that wish.
The
purpose of meeting him that night was to learn first hand how things
were progressing. Given his connections, we are a bit in awe of him
if truth be told. Ade has met him a couple of times but that is
pretty much that. We meet in a pub before we meet the MITP and Ade is
looking glum. Until that point, we had all been on the same page,
aware of the jury only being asked about unlawful killing and happy
we will soon see inquests with the right result
What's
up Ade? He starts to explain that the MITP will know more, but it
looks like the Coroner is trying to shaft us, trying to apportion a
share of the blame on the fans. I stand in stunned silence,
disbelieving what I am hearing. Why would he do that we ask, and
plenty of theories abound. Another bent freemason? A mate of the SYP.
He's been knobbled? Who knows but one thing we are adamant of is we
aren't just going to accept a share of the blame and go “Ok then”.
The
MITP turns up slightly later and confirms our worst fears. The
Coroner has introduced a question, number 7 of 14, specifically
relating to fan behaviour. “Did the fans cause or contribute to the
deaths.” Worse, he has introduced a supplementary question, “If
not, may the fans have caused or contributed...?”
What
does 'may have' mean? We either did, or we didn't. What the fck
does 'may have' mean? Tell me one case where a jury has been asked
whether something 'may have' happened? It's ambiguous and it's an
invitation to the jury to shit on us. We come to the conclusion we
are being set up, set up to take a share of the wrap due to a Coroner
who seems to think we will accept it. There will be an almighty
shitstorm if we cop the blame. People won't be able to cope with it.
Some survivors over the years have committed suicide, you want half
a dozen more? Just to keep a load of bent SYP happy and placate
their legal team? Really?
The
implicit trade off seems to have been done, The families get
unlawful killing, the SYP get to say that the crush outside the
turnstiles was caused by the fans, not their own incompetent lack of
planning.
We
promise the MITP that we are not idiots. We may not have the
influence of top lawyers etc. but we are all intelligent, educated
and most key, we are determined. We are not being labelled
murderers, it is isn't happening. We all agree we need to influence
the Coroner, we need to make sure he understands that if he shits on
the fans, there will be an almighty shitstorm.
And
so it started, 5 determined Survivors, Survivors with attitude start
to work on a plan. How can we get the message to the Coroner that he
can't just shit on us. We may not be represented at the inquests,
we may not have legal teams defending our corner, but you are going
to get the most almighty shitstorm if we are labelled murderers,
solely on the basis of the testimony of corrupt SYP officers.
Wednesday, 4 May 2016
Couple of corrections / ammendments
Am not going to change previous posts, but some things to correct in previous blogs. Things I have learned from evidence in the inquests since writing my accounts:
On the day....
More fans died in Pen 3 than Pen 4. I thought it was the other way round.
The timing of the barrier going is interesting. In the blog I mention Beardsley hitting the bar. I was actually out at that point as I have seen a photo of me outside the pens at 3.03pm. That means the barrier went before Beardsley hit the bar. I was stood in front of it, so know it went. It may have broken in stages as I know many people believe it was the near miss that caused it to break.
I also mention Duckenfield first lying at 3.50pm. Turns out he lied closer to 3.15pm. Certainly when a number of the 96 were still fighting for their lives.
WMP Interview
Don't think my interviewer was WMSCS - rather just an ordinary WMP copper. That said, we know some WMSCS were on scene, so strongly suspect they were behind the counter narrative that was being pulled together.
I wrote my blog before seeing my statements via the IPCC. IT actually gets worse as they have added writing into the questionnaire after my interview. The writing is in a different style to all the answers I made.
Worst is the answer to did I see fans drinking. I replied yes and it is written as YES. Then, in different style (Lower cursive writing, the YES and all other answers were written in block capital letters) is added the comment "Saw 50% of fans drinking"
This matters why? Well for starters I never saw or said I saw 50% of fans drinking. Secondly it matches the evidence of many dishonest SYP whose statements said exactly the same thing. My statement was changed to match the SYP narrative.
On the day....
More fans died in Pen 3 than Pen 4. I thought it was the other way round.
The timing of the barrier going is interesting. In the blog I mention Beardsley hitting the bar. I was actually out at that point as I have seen a photo of me outside the pens at 3.03pm. That means the barrier went before Beardsley hit the bar. I was stood in front of it, so know it went. It may have broken in stages as I know many people believe it was the near miss that caused it to break.
I also mention Duckenfield first lying at 3.50pm. Turns out he lied closer to 3.15pm. Certainly when a number of the 96 were still fighting for their lives.
WMP Interview
Don't think my interviewer was WMSCS - rather just an ordinary WMP copper. That said, we know some WMSCS were on scene, so strongly suspect they were behind the counter narrative that was being pulled together.
I wrote my blog before seeing my statements via the IPCC. IT actually gets worse as they have added writing into the questionnaire after my interview. The writing is in a different style to all the answers I made.
Worst is the answer to did I see fans drinking. I replied yes and it is written as YES. Then, in different style (Lower cursive writing, the YES and all other answers were written in block capital letters) is added the comment "Saw 50% of fans drinking"
This matters why? Well for starters I never saw or said I saw 50% of fans drinking. Secondly it matches the evidence of many dishonest SYP whose statements said exactly the same thing. My statement was changed to match the SYP narrative.
Friday, 29 April 2016
How did they get away with it?
The question seems to have moved on, now that we all accept that 96
fans went to a football match, were unlawfully killed by police
negligence, that the blame was then deflected onto the innocent
supporters....the question is How? How have we allowed that to happen?
For 27 years the dishonest liars in the SYP (of which there were 100s) who put comments in their statements about drunkeness, ticketless fans, who used standard phrases like "animalistic behaviour" in describing fans like me, who allowed criticisms of the police to be removed from their statements, who fed lies to the press and to their friends in parliament, who took to the stands at the inquests, at the inquiries and lied, committed perjury, who fabricated evidence, who threatened and intimidated witnesses (like me), who got their friends to give false statements as "witnesses" (More later when that story is properly broken)
How did they get away with it? How is our establishment so utterly hopeless that they will allow a bunch of corrupt police to brand innocent people as killers? How did the press largely buy into this bullshit? How did those who investigate the police buy into this bullshit? How did our politicians allow this to carry on? Where were the investigative press?
The key failures here were in all levels of power, the press, the governments and the police themselves and the legal system. Many attempts were made to right the wrongs in the courts, yet the legal system failed miserably. Access to justice only comes with a fat wallet so it seems. Access to a voice only comes with power, which working class footie fans have so little of.
I think our society is so geared up, to protect the vested interests of those in power, and to deny the rights of the ordinary man. And this is not a political point, it is an anti-establishment point. Of those who helped to deny justice, Blair and Straw are as bad as anyone (Didn't want to upset Murdoch) and T.May has done as much as anyone to take on the vested interests within the corrupt police establishment.
I have heard many Journos say Tuesday was a "Great day for the British justice system" - utter nonsense. I have not heard one fellow survivor or family member say that. Tuesday was a "Huge indictment on the British justice system" - that it took 27 years to get to the truth is a shameful indictment on the establishment and how they allowed good intelligent people - like many who will be reading this, to believe the lies of the SYP over the 1000s of other witnesses whose testimony you never heard (or when you did, you never believed).
For 27 years the dishonest liars in the SYP (of which there were 100s) who put comments in their statements about drunkeness, ticketless fans, who used standard phrases like "animalistic behaviour" in describing fans like me, who allowed criticisms of the police to be removed from their statements, who fed lies to the press and to their friends in parliament, who took to the stands at the inquests, at the inquiries and lied, committed perjury, who fabricated evidence, who threatened and intimidated witnesses (like me), who got their friends to give false statements as "witnesses" (More later when that story is properly broken)
How did they get away with it? How is our establishment so utterly hopeless that they will allow a bunch of corrupt police to brand innocent people as killers? How did the press largely buy into this bullshit? How did those who investigate the police buy into this bullshit? How did our politicians allow this to carry on? Where were the investigative press?
The key failures here were in all levels of power, the press, the governments and the police themselves and the legal system. Many attempts were made to right the wrongs in the courts, yet the legal system failed miserably. Access to justice only comes with a fat wallet so it seems. Access to a voice only comes with power, which working class footie fans have so little of.
I think our society is so geared up, to protect the vested interests of those in power, and to deny the rights of the ordinary man. And this is not a political point, it is an anti-establishment point. Of those who helped to deny justice, Blair and Straw are as bad as anyone (Didn't want to upset Murdoch) and T.May has done as much as anyone to take on the vested interests within the corrupt police establishment.
I have heard many Journos say Tuesday was a "Great day for the British justice system" - utter nonsense. I have not heard one fellow survivor or family member say that. Tuesday was a "Huge indictment on the British justice system" - that it took 27 years to get to the truth is a shameful indictment on the establishment and how they allowed good intelligent people - like many who will be reading this, to believe the lies of the SYP over the 1000s of other witnesses whose testimony you never heard (or when you did, you never believed).
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